Excerpts from the notorious Spiritual Warfare Series are below (these offer a glance into Driscoll’s views on women), along with comments regarding them and my site from equalitycentral.com . But first…
Here is an amazon.com link to the table of contents to a book entitled
10 Lies the Church Tells Women,
by J. Lee Grady
Just about all of the chapters have titles which accurately describe the kind of “Complementarianism” Driscoll and MH seem to be pumping out. For example:
Lie #1: God created women as inferior beings, destined to serve their husbands
[Now I realize MHers would say, "No, not inferior, just different." Mhm... I would challenge that with: Please show me three examples of the "differences" which do not place the woman in an inferior position.]
Lie #6: Women who exhibit strong leadership qualities pose a serious danger to the church
[In Mark's own words, these women are "satanic" and men should "run!" from them. See Spiritual Warfare Series]
Lie #7: Women are more easily deceived than men
[Mark says this straight out in, guess where, yes, the Spiritual Warfare Series]
While on this topic of books about Gender Issues in the Christian community, Equality Depot has many helpful book recommendations:
Some of their listings include:
Women in the Church: A Biblical Theology of Women in Ministry – Stanley J. Grenz; Paperback
10 Lies the Church Tells Women – J. Lee Grady; Paperback
What Paul Really Said About Women: The Apostle’s Liberating Views on Equality in Marriage, Leadership, and Love – John T. Bristow; Paperback
Good News for Women: A Biblical Picture of Gender Equality – Rebecca Merrill Groothuis; Paperback
The Home Page for the depot is Christians for Biblical Equality:
They have a wonderful, succinct description of the Egalitarian view I have tended to express on this blog, called Men, Women and Biblical Equality. When/If granted permission, I will post that.
Now, let us proceed… Is it just me, or does anyone else out there think this is just a little bit misogynistic? Perhaps that’s too strong a word… chauvinistic? oppressive? abusive? (sorry, another strong word, I know).
Notes and Quotes From Driscoll’s Spiritual Warfare Series, Pt 2
and Peasant Princess, Pt 2
(Taken from my post, Christian Taliban & Wearing Berkas)
Two minutes into his teaching on Spiritual Warfare, part 2: Driscoll begins what I consider to be women-bashing. In his “Demonic Counseling,” he claims to counsel more women than men [implication: more women are demonized than men?]. He quotes Scripture, “women are the weaker vessel,” and states this is evidence that they are the more easily deceived. [Ah ha!]
Nine minutes: Driscoll discusses what he terms, “the ordinary demonic.” Of course the first thing he talks about is that lack of frequent sex among married Christians is demonic [Great for him: “Uh, baby doll, if you don’t have sex with me as much as I desire, that is ‘frequently,’ you are demonic.”].
Eleven minutes: He states that in most of the marriage ‘counseling’ he does, there is almost always the problem of one not wanting sex as often as the other. He says this is like having “Satan in bed between the two of you.” [What? What if it’s about sexual abuse in either of their pasts? What if it’s about emotional/physical abuse in the marriage? What if it’s about lack of emotional intimacy?, etc…]
Fifty minutes: Driscoll asserts that Satan loves gossip and busy-bodying, “Ladies, this one is for you.” Driscoll spends FIFTEEN MINUTES castigating “women who gossip, or busybody.” He fails to mention anything about men who gossip or busybody. He even warns women not to rely on or trust in older women [contrary to Scripture] because they are likely to be busybodies and gossips, unless they are especially spiritual and very submissive.
Fifty three minutes: Driscoll describes how he protects his wife from other women who want to go have coffee with her and get to know her, because, guess what, “that is Satanic,” and he says he knows what they’re really up to. [Pray tell?]
Fifty four minutes: “Female manipulation.” Women use emotion to manipulate others, especially into gossiping and being busy-bodies. He says, are you ready, “That’s Satanic.” [The only safe place to keep these frighteningly dangerous and sinful women is in their homes, busy with their kids, serving their husbands, having sex on demand, and Bible reading. Apparently, women getting together with other women (unsupervised by the correct authority) is too dangerous an activity for Mars Hillians.]
Fifty six minutes: “Sometimes women’s ministry is the cesspool that this kind of activity flourishes in. Some people ask, ‘Why don’t we have women’s ministry?’ We do, but you have to be very careful. It’s like juggling knives.” [The message seems to be that even when women are allowed this little bit of autonomy and power, they are so sinful and unstable they create a “cesspool.” ]He states that women meeting together end up secretly ripping on their husbands, “It happens all the time.”
Fifty seven minutes: The women who want to be in leadership and who want to lead women’s groups are “the wrong kind of women.” That is Satanic. When you meet a woman who tells you she wants to marry a pastor, Mark exclaims, “Run! That is Satanic!” These are controlling and busy-bodies. They are the “gossip mamas and drama queens.” Then he goes on to describe the sweet, submissive, quiet women who are fit to lead.